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Biden and Xi hash out 'real progress' at rare talks

November 16, 2023

During four hours of negotiations, Xi Jinping and Joe Biden agreed on some fronts, like restarting military talks, but maintained divergent views on others, like China-Taiwan tensions.

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Xi and Biden at a secluded estate outside San Francisco, where the APEC summit is being held
Biden hosted Xi at a secluded estate outside San Francisco, where the APEC summit is being heldImage: Doug Mills/AP Photo/picture alliance

Chinese President Xi Jinping had a rare face-to-face meeting with US President Joe Biden on Wednesday.

The two leaders met outside of San Francisco for the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit.

Biden said the purpose of the meeting was "to understand each other."

"As always, there's no substitute to face-to-face discussions," he said, adding that he and Xi "haven't always agreed" in the past. 

Following the four-hour meeting, Biden said talks with Xi made "real progress."

"I value the conversation I had today with President Xi," Biden said on X, formerly Twitter. "And today, we made real progress." 

Biden, Xi meet in California

Biden was then asked at a news conference if he believed Xi was a dictator, to which he responded: "Well look he is, I mean he's a dictator in the sense that he's a guy who's running a country, a Communist country, that's based on a form of government totally different than ours."

Biden had made similar comments earlier this year, sparking fierce backlash in Beijing.

Biden and Xi discuss Israel's war against Hamas 

Biden and Xi discussed the unfolding crisis in the Middle East, with Biden asking China to influence Iran to avoid taking steps that could be seen as provocative, a senior US official told reporters.

Chinese officials reportedly told US officials they had engaged in discussions with Iran on the risks of a regional spillover from the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip. 

Biden also pressed Xi to continue to withhold military support for Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Greater communications at military level, AI

Biden and Xi agreed to restore some military-to-military communications between their armed forces at a time when unprofessional incidents between the two nations' ships and aircraft have spiked.

Xi said after the meeting that he and Biden agreed to resume high-level military dialogues on the basis of equity and respect, according to a statement released by Xinhua state news agency.

The leaders also agreed to set up joint government talks on the use of artificial intelligence, as well as a working group on counternarcotics cooperation, Xinhua said.

Biden said they agreed to high-level communications too. "He [Xi] and I agreed that each one of us can pick up the phone call directly and we'll be heard immediately." 

Xi and Biden say competition should not mean conflict

At the opening of the talks, Biden said the two leaders must ensure that "competition does not lead to conflict." 

Xi later told Biden that "planet Earth is big enough for both countries to succeed." He said that protectionism has weighed on the global economy.

Xi said China did not seek to "surpass or unseat the United States" and stressed that "the United States should not scheme to suppress and contain China."

The leaders' first meeting since November 2022 was held far from the APEC summit at Filoli estate, a venue miles outside San Francisco, chosen for its security, serenity and remoteness.

Taiwan biggest issue in ties, Xi tells Biden

A senior US official told reporters after the meeting that Xi told Biden Taiwan is the biggest issue is US-China ties.

The official quoted Xi as saying China's preference was for peaceful reunification with Taiwan but went on to talk about conditions in which force could be used.

China continues to claim the island of Taiwan as its own territory. The US acknowledges China's position on Taiwan but does not take a position on Taiwan's status.

"I'm not going to change that," Biden said. "That's not going to change." The White House said Biden also reaffirmed the US ironclad commitment to defending its Indo-Pacific allies.

"The US side should... stop arming Taiwan, and support China's peaceful reunification," Xi told Biden, according to a readout from China's Foreign Ministry.

Xi was trying to indicate that China is not preparing for a massive invasion of Taiwan, but that does not change the US approach, the official said.

The White House said Biden raised concerns with Xi about China's "human rights abuses" in Xinjiang, Tibet and Hong Kong. 

Economic challenges

According to Beijing's description of the meeting, Xi pressed Biden to lift sanctions and change policies on export controls for sensitive equipment.

"Stifling China's technological progress is nothing but a move to contain China's high-quality development and deprive the Chinese people of their right to development," the readout said.

White House checks off topics tackled in meeting

White House national security spokesperson John Kirby earlier listed a number of topics that Biden intended to bring up with Xi at the meeting, which marked the Chinese leader's first time in the United States since 2017.

That included "tensions in the Taiwan Strait" and the human rights situation faced by Uyghurs in Xinjiang province, Kirby had said on Wednesday.

Kirby previously said the two leaders would likely also discuss other geopolitical issues such as North Korea's missile tests, Russia's invasion of Ukraine and Israel's war against Hamas, which the US and other governments categorize as a terrorist organization.

Biden: 'We're not trying to decouple from China'

On Tuesday, on the eve of the meeting, Biden walked back previous rhetoric about an economic "decoupling" from China.

"We're not trying to decouple from China. What we're trying to do is change the relationship for the better," Biden said

rm, zc/sms (AP, Reuters, AFP)